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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2002 11:55 am    Post subject: I see a bad moon arising..
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Trouble on the way?

I have been using Proxomitron for about six months and I thoroughly enjoy my new found power. While I make no claims to being a filter monkey (outside photoshop) I have created some of my own filters. As I lack finesse I shall keep my TheOnion filters to myself to avoid public taunting.

I do, however, wonder if I am the only proxomitron user to stumble across these annoying people:

http://antiadbuster.com/

Thoughts? Solutions? Kudos requests?

TIA

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2002 2:29 pm    Post subject:
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I think I ran across something similar before, but the beast you gave is certainly new to me. I went to a site which has the antiad code in place: http://www.supercheats.com/ and sure enough was presented with a message that I'm using an adblocker and that to continue I had to disable it.

Interesting.. I'm curious to see what filters will be developed to circumvent this nasty bug.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2002 5:53 pm    Post subject:
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It's been discussed on Yahoo groups & diff filters were posted, but I don't think anybody posted everything needed to circumvent it. So, here ya go.

NOTE: Make sure the "Anti AdBusters" filter is placed before your Ad filters.

[Blocklists]
List.AdBusters = "..\Lists\AdBusters.txt"

[HTTP headers]
EDIT: Look at the post below by TEggHead

[Patterns]
Name = "Anti AdBusters"
Active = TRUE
URL = "$LST(AdBusters)"
Bounds = "<textarea\s*</textarea>"
Limit = 256
Match = "\1"
Replace = "\1"


-------[ make an "AdBusters.txt" file & place the following in it. ]-------

# AdBuster list.
# This list contains URLs that block Ad killers.
#
www.supercheats.com/


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2002 6:04 pm    Post subject:
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BTW, what they do is; they place a hidden form with ad code inside, if the code is modified your sent to the adblocker page, if it's not modified your sent to the real page. Then they place a cookie "ad_blocker_found=false" or "ad_blocker_found=true". If you don't allow cookies, they won't let you in.


Here's the page with the hidden form.
http://www.supercheats.com/adbust/antiadbuster_b1.php?rand_id=120&p_loc=/index.php

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2002 6:06 pm    Post subject:
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Ooops, forgot to allow cookies/login.... hehehe Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2002 6:53 pm    Post subject:
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Very nice, thanks for sharing that information.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2002 9:17 pm    Post subject:
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Anonymous wrote:
BTW, what they do is; they place a hidden form
with ad code inside, if the code is modified your sent to the adblocker
page, if it's not modified your sent to the real page. Then they place a
cookie "ad_blocker_found=false" or "ad_blocker_found=true". If you
don't allow cookies, they won't let you in.


Which reminded me...JD? that could simplify the needed filters extremely.

I now have just this single one and it seems to do just as nicely

In = FALSE
Out = TRUE
Key = "Cookie: Reply No Ad Blocker (out)"
URL = "$LST(AdBusters)"
Match = "(?|(^?))"
Replace = "ad_blocker_found=false"

BTW. did anyone downloaded the AntiAdbuster script yet?

Oh... Smile nevermind
Rolling Eyes duh...login is required ? who says Cool Cool Cool

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2002 9:53 pm    Post subject:
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Stunning! Thank you much for sharing.

The headers filters remain arcane to me. Though I've adopted TeggHead's variant instead of your OR'd combo. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2002 12:28 am    Post subject:
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TEggHead wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
BTW, what they do is; they place a hidden form
with ad code inside, if the code is modified your sent to the adblocker
page, if it's not modified your sent to the real page. Then they place a
cookie "ad_blocker_found=false" or "ad_blocker_found=true". If you
don't allow cookies, they won't let you in.


Which reminded me...JD? that could simplify the needed filters extremely.

I now have just this single one and it seems to do just as nicely

In = FALSE
Out = TRUE
Key = "Cookie: Reply No Ad Blocker (out)"
URL = "$LST(AdBusters)"
Match = "(?|(^?))"
Replace = "ad_blocker_found=false"

BTW. did anyone downloaded the AntiAdbuster script yet?

Oh... Smile nevermind
Rolling Eyes duh...login is required ? who says Cool Cool Cool

HTH
JarC




Ahhhh, much better! Very Happy I tried something like that, but it didn't work... Dunno... yours works great tho. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2002 10:37 am    Post subject:
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This doesn't seem to work for cdcovers.cc

Before adding these I would get a page telling me to remove my filtering software, after adding these it seems to be in a repeating loop loading the page and the page for failing its check.

To test it, click Covers at the top and then any cover page.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2002 2:23 pm    Post subject:
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Correct, although it is not that it not works, it's more that the 'filtered' version is still in your cache and getting retrieved instead of a fresh copy, I've got the same problem with the next proxy in the chain.

Another alternative is to use one of the allowed spiders as addition to a fake user-agent

see the Adbuster Disected thread

I'm using this one and doesn't need a cookie too...

In = FALSE
Out = TRUE
Key = "User-Agent: AntiAdbuster"
URL = "*$LST(zUA_Fake_AntiAdbuster)*"
Replace = "Slurp/0.01 [fu] (Win67; X; KnifeCollector)"

The List is just a blocklist with sites using this technique...

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2002 9:05 pm    Post subject:
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I added that to my headers as well, but i'm still stuck in a repeating loop of this:

Code:

*** Log Reset ***
BlockList 2378: in AdBusters, line 5

+++GET 2378+++
GET /dvd_b.php HTTP/1.0
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, */*
Accept-Language: en-us
Cookie: check_done=275f9e4dfbf9e9de291f02a63e5d7caf
User-Agent: Slurp/0.01 [fu] (Win67; X; KnifeCollector)
Host: www.cdcovers.cc
Connection: keep-alive
Accept-encoding: gzip, deflate

+++RESP 2378+++
HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:57:02 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.23 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a PHP/4.1.2
Location: http://www.cdcovers.cc/403.php
Connection: close
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
+++CLOSE 2378+++


The covers page forwards me to a 403 error, which keeps looping back to itself repeatedly being refreshed.

I've cleared my temp-internet files and it still doesn't work.

Any other suggestions?

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2002 11:14 pm    Post subject:
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Rolling Eyes I must say, these guys at cdcovers do have a warped sense of legalities...they call the person using an adblocker, the bandwidth thief, must be because they're looking in a mirror, how else can they have it backwards?

At any rate, this goes to show how dynamic the internet is, one day the name of a user-agent that works is posted, the next day it stops working already, curious how long this one survives...


*** Log Reset ***

+++GET 1354+++
Using Proxy - CRasher:8181
GET http://www.cdcovers.cc/dvd_b.php HTTP/1.1
Accept: image/gif, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, images/png, image/x-xbitmap, */*
Accept-Language: 12-34
Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip
User-Agent: Road Runner
Host: www.cdcovers.cc
Connection: keep-alive

+++RESP 1354+++
HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Server: Apache/1.3.23 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a PHP/4.1.2
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
+++CLOSE 1354+++

+++GET 1355+++
Using Proxy - CRasher:8080
GET http://www.cdcovers.cc/antiadbuster_blank.htm HTTP/1.1
Accept: image/gif, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, images/png, image/x-xbitmap, */*
Referer: http://www.cdcovers.cc/dvd_b.php
Accept-Language: 12-34
Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip
User-Agent: Road Runner
Host: www.cdcovers.cc
Connection: keep-alive

+++GET 1356+++
Using Proxy - CRasher:8080
GET http://www.cdcovers.cc/antiadbuster_ad.php?rand_id=2121578463&page_location=/dvd_b.php HTTP/1.1
Accept: image/gif, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, images/png, image/x-xbitmap, */*
Referer: http://www.cdcovers.cc/dvd_b.php
Accept-Language: 12-34
Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip
User-Agent: Road Runner
Host: www.cdcovers.cc
Connection: keep-alive

+++RESP 1355+++
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Apache/1.3.23 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a PHP/4.1.2
Last-Modified: Wed, 15 May 2002 22:18:51 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 6
Content-Type: text/html
Connection: close
+++CLOSE 1355+++

+++RESP 1356+++
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Apache/1.3.23 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a PHP/4.1.2
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html
Connection: close
+++CLOSE 1356+++

+++GET 1357+++
Using Proxy - CRasher:8080
POST http://www.cdcovers.cc/antiadbuster_bust.php HTTP/1.1
Accept: image/gif, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, images/png, image/x-xbitmap, */*
Referer: http://www.cdcovers.cc/antiadbuster_ad.php?rand_id=2121578463&page_location=/dvd_b.php
Accept-Language: 12-34
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip
User-Agent: Road Runner
Host: www.cdcovers.cc
Content-Length: 232
Pragma: no-cache
Connection: keep-alive
Browser reload detected...
Posting 232 bytes...

+++RESP 1357+++
HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Server: Apache/1.3.23 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a PHP/4.1.2
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2
Location: http://www.cdcovers.cc/dvd_b.php
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html
Connection: close
+++CLOSE 1357+++

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2002 2:45 pm    Post subject:
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The User-Agent filter might work with cdcovers (though, as we see, they can keep banning those). However, the cookie fiter doesn't. They don't use "ad_blocker_found=false", but rather, "check_done=" and a long string that may apply to a session ID. For the time being, I can get by with faking that cookie, but I suspect that is a short lived solution:


GET http://www.cdcovers.cc/audio_b.php HTTP/1.0
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword, */*
Referer: http://www.cdcovers.cc/antiadbuster_ad.php?rand_id=800756015&page_location=/audio_b.php
Accept-Language: en-us
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)
Host: www.cdcovers.cc
Pragma: no-cache
Cookie: check_done=9c5819505cf1b345128ed4cfcf091d41
Connection: keep-alive

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2002 9:03 am    Post subject:
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Paul wrote:
Very nice, thanks for sharing that information.

Funny thing: I am using Prox, I tried visiting the Supercheats site and got no warning messages. Maybe the fact that I use Mozilla as a browser is significant?

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